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I just added Commons:Deletion requests/File:宣材写真.jpg to this category (more specifically, to a newly-created subcategory for DRs closed as ‘deleted’). After all, the closing statement says: dubious licensing. It must be about licensing, right?

But this category is poorly defined. It has the subcategory Copyright deletion requests. How can copyright be a subset of licensing? It should be the other way around. Copyright is a more general subject that covers questions about whether works are copyrighted at all (ToO, notice, renewal, government exemption, URAA, etc), as well as things like FoP and derivative works. Licensing is just one small part of copyright.

Let’s get this category tree cleaned up so I can stop adding DRs to Copyright deletion requests and start categorising them properly. Brianjd (talk) 08:39, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/12/Category:Copyright deletion requests should be merged into this discussion. Brianjd (talk) 12:32, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
From Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/12/Category:Copyright deletion requests:
As probably the majority - or at least a very large part - of deletion requests on Commons are related to copyright, I question the usefulness of this category, created in 2017. The currently 43 DR pages directly in this category, out of potentially many tens of thousands, or 38 in Category:Copyright deletion requests/deleted, and the nine(!) in Category:Copyright deletion requests/kept, seem arbitrary. As the more specific subcategories, particularly Category:Copyright deletion requests by artist, seem more useful, I think a solution could be to make this a {{CatCat}} and remove it from all DR pages that don't pertain to a more specific subcategory; also remove the generic "deleted" and "kept" categories there. Gestumblindi (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gestumblindi It is interesting that every DR page in the ‘/kept’ subcategory and most DR pages in the ‘/deleted’ subcategory has been visited by me (as shown by the way my browser formats the links). It is likely that most, if not all, of those DR pages were added to those categories by me too. I know that I have been adding many DR pages to Copyright deletion requests, then moving them to the appropriate subcategory when they are closed. Brianjd (talk) 12:36, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that the copyright category is basically a catch-all for the vast majority of discussions but that doesn't make it useless. It's probably better to organize things into child categories but CatCat doesn't make sense because there will probably be some discussion that hasn't been resolved (not every country needs a subcategory at the moment and burying things into one the first time it comes up with make it harder not easier for others to find). As of now, I see keeping things are they are. For the licensing-related ones, if the child categories are related then the kept/deleted children here need to be filled up the same way. This is all just a system to hopefully get more eyes and/or more experienced users on various topics, not a categorization onto itself. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:04, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the nomination: licensing is a subset of copyright. I think the tree should be
—‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What about files that are unlikely to be own work but where we dont know if copyright have expired? Trade (talk) 13:45, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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