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Re-open of DR - Killing of Iryna Zarutska (cropped).webm
editHello all! I have reverted the closure and deletion by GPSLeo of the deletion discussion for File:Killing of Iryna Zarutska (cropped).webm, which had only been open for approximately 2–3 days.
This file documents a public event and serves as a factual, historical record rather than private or intimate content. Its educational and historical value is significant, making it suitable for Commons under our content policies. While I strongly support keeping this file, I believe the speedy deletion was inappropriate. The matter is nuanced and should not be subject to automatic or rushed closure. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 14:47, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- This video is a clear violation of the personality rights of the person. The heirs can approve the publication on behalf of the dead person but they explicitly demanded the removal. The public interest on this video does not overweight the rights of the person. We could keep some singe frames but not the hole video. GPSLeo (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, actually it does. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Inappropriate revert of a defensible closure. Whether its educational value is so overwhelming as to satisfy the higher threshold for educational value put forward by COM:DIGNITY is a case that was argued in the DR, and for which there are multiple valid perspectives. GPSLeo closed it, evaluating the COM:DIGNITY argument to be compelling, and it was closed early, which makes sense in a case when COM:DIGNITY is involved and the harm caused by hosting the video is at its height right now (i.e. high-traffic). Joseve05a simply agrees with the other perspective: that the educational value is sufficiently overwhelming to overcome COM:DIGNITY. But instead of appealing the closure they just reverted and added their opinion without so much as discussing it first on GPSLeo's talk page. "There were two sides, it was closed in favor of one, and I agree with the other" is not a valid reason for circumventing the appeal process presented at COM:DR. I didn't vote in the DR, and could see it resolving in either direction, but to the extent COM:DIGNITY is the stronger case, it makes sense to resolve it early, and I don't mind Commons admins erring on the side of discretion. Regardless, just reverting a close you don't agree with isn't ok. — Rhododendrites talk | 17:42, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Reverting a deletion request that was closed prematurely is not a violation of Commons policy. DRs are intended to remain open for at least seven days to allow discussion, and early closure (especially in complex or sensitive cases) . ONly in cases of clear COM:CSD can the DR be closed early. My actions were in line with this principle: the DR had only been open for 2–3 days, and the discussion was far from complete. Reopening the DR allowed the community to consider all perspectives fully before a final decision. Posting a reasoned !vote in the DR is a separate matter from the administrative closure and is explicitly permitted under Commons guidelines. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 17:51, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with Jonatan here. Closing early is only possible for not controversial DRs and obvious copyright violations or vandalism. While COM:DIGNITY could be considered, it is widely used and in the public domain, so there is no reason not to let it run the whole usual duration. Yann (talk) 17:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- IMO if a DR is controversial, waiting a bit to let opinions and facts come is a good idea. Imagine if the Caesar DePaço AfD was closed in 3 days? Agree with Jonatan and Yann. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? -
uselesscontributions} 20:28, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- you're endorsing just undoing a closure without discussion? The enwiki analogy fails because there's no real equivalent to a com:dignity deletion. Blp is similar but not typically litigated via afd. So the closer analogy would be "can you imagine someone revdelled a blp violation and another admin just came by and restored it with no discussion?" Process is important. — Rhododendrites talk | 20:43, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- I do feel like GPSLeo's close was premature, although it's probably the position I'd take. It's a difficult balancing act though, public interest vs. the dignity of the deceased and the wishes of the family. Abzeronow (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- it's a difficult one for sure. Bedivere (talk) 23:09, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Personality rights of a deceased person may or may not still subsist, depending on jurisdiction.
- This topic, deleting files due to personality rights of a deceased person, should be brought up for community-wide discussion on com:vp, instead of being decided here by a limited group of users.
- The original closure of controversial DR and deletion of the file without a valid reason was rightfully undone. RoyZuo (talk) 14:44, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, different countries have different kinds of personality rights. I recently deleted a in scope photograph that was apparently taken without consent in Germany (I set an undeletion date after the expiration of those rights). The problem is that these things are a case by case basis. The community can tell us if they want to weigh the dignity of the deceased more or if we should weigh the public interest in keeping it available, but ultimately it will come down to the judgement of the closing admin. Abzeronow (talk) 23:54, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
User abusing tools on BLP issue
editHello, there is a killing video that the family of the victim is requesting that internet users stop circulating and sharing. "Meanwhile, the Zarutska family asked social media users and others to refrain from sharing the video of her attack, which took place in August. “The family is urging the public and media to respect Iryna’s dignity and their grief by not reposting or circulating the footage of her killing"
(source: https://www.wtnh.com/news/north-carolina-train-killing-victims-family-speaks-out-asks-public-to-stop-sharing-video)
The deletion discussion was closed after evaluating the consensus and BLP issues. It was correctly closed by @GPSLeo.
Josve05a then behaved abusively by unilaterally undoing it and inserting his opinion.[1]
Josve05a undid a consensus without discussion.
Josve05a did it and then voiced his content opinion on the same subject.
Josve05a ignored https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests#Appealing_decisions Bladeandroid (talk) 09:45, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I see @Rhododendrites has raised a similar complaint. This is not okay. Bladeandroid (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Can I request someone to merge this with the topic above, and revert this users out-of-process reclosng of the DR (they can’t close someone as a non-admin action if the result is delete). --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 10:35, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am not re-closing, I am restoring the closure performed by GPSLeo since it was all done without his consent. The process to contest it is Commons:Deletion requests#Appealing decisions. This is basically corruption.
- Please keep the sections separate. Bladeandroid (talk) 11:26, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bladeandroid: I don't think undoing the initial close was appropriate, but you're just going to get yourself blocked by repeatedly reinstating it. It appears folks may be willing to look the other way for an out-of-process revert when there's disagreement about early closure, but edit warring (repeatedly doing the same thing) is an unambiguous rule that we enforce more readily with short-term blocks to avoid disruption. FYI. — Rhododendrites talk | 12:58, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I blocked Bladeandroid as VOA. A new account edit-warring after 20 edits? No way. Yann (talk) 13:10, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I also blocked Symphony Regalia (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information) for the same reason: probable sock, etc. Yann (talk) 19:02, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- I blocked Bladeandroid as VOA. A new account edit-warring after 20 edits? No way. Yann (talk) 13:10, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bladeandroid: I don't think undoing the initial close was appropriate, but you're just going to get yourself blocked by repeatedly reinstating it. It appears folks may be willing to look the other way for an out-of-process revert when there's disagreement about early closure, but edit warring (repeatedly doing the same thing) is an unambiguous rule that we enforce more readily with short-term blocks to avoid disruption. FYI. — Rhododendrites talk | 12:58, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
09js09 uploads, "own work" claims
editCan you guys check out this person: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/09js09
At least one of theirs that keeps getting added is tagged speedy; they apparently just snatched it from someone's Twitter. Several of their uploads are tagged as copyright violations. Very Polite Person (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Done Some files deleted, user warned, and Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by 09js09. Please note that EXIF data are fake. Yann (talk) 15:23, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Request for mass message
editI would like to request a multilingual mass message for POTY 2024. The message is in Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Message, and targets are Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Message/Targets. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 17:14, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Please someone help, this is an emergency because the round 1 of the contest already started 31 hours ago! Thank you in advance for your help!
- Note: please beware of the double heading issue that happened last year (title was appearing twice on all talk pages), thank you! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 07:40, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Aafi, could you please help us? Thank you! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 08:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- On it. signed, Aafi (talk) 10:21, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Done. signed, Aafi (talk) 10:27, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Terrific! Many thanks for doing it! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:57, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Done. signed, Aafi (talk) 10:27, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- On it. signed, Aafi (talk) 10:21, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Aafi, could you please help us? Thank you! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 08:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Deletion of the Category "Bluespice 5"
editHello,
i´ve accidently created the category Bluespice 5. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bluespice_5 The category already exists ( BlueSpice 5 : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BlueSpice_5 ) Could you please delete the wrongly created one. ( Bluespice 5, all small letters)
Best Regards, Yannik Meier Ymeier (talk) 10:35, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
Delete files
editHello admin, I would like your help in deleting all the images in Category:Dian Rana because all the files were uploaded by LTA Dian Rana. You can see the discussion here 𝄃𝄃𝄂Badak𝄂𝄀𝄁𝄃 🕭 13:52, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
Banner-Problem
editDer Marker für das Wegklicken von (lästigen) Bannern ist quasi unsichtbar (schwarz auf dunkelgrünem oder ähnlichem Hintergrund). Ich habe schon einmal darauf hingewiesen und es wurde mir gesagt, dass es ein Versehen gewesen sei und man es gleich korrigieren wolle. Das glaube ich inzwischen nicht mehr, nachdem sich das mehrfach wiederholt hat. Man scheint jetzt auch bei Wikipedia auf Dark Patterns zu setzen. WolfgangRieger (talk) 22:31, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
I'd like to request a little help regarding the deletion proposal from the subject.
I don't think nominating for speedy deletion files with an ongoing deletion discussion is acceptable, but I would like a confirmation before I do any reverts.
Also, please close this discussion - opened by mistake by myself - in favor of the older one. Thank you! Strainu (talk) 08:27, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- When its a clear copyvio Admins have the discretion to delete immediately. In this case speedy deletion was a suggestion from Wikishovel. This made the case for deletion and I have deleted the files and closed the DR Gbawden (talk) 08:51, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
Remove filemover right
editCan someone please remove the filemover right from my account? Thanks. Geoffroi 21:59, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Seems like you are having a bad day/some missunderstandings. Maybe sleep over it? --Isderion (talk) 23:14, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- If you still want it removed after 24 hours, I'll do so. Abzeronow (talk) 00:25, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- I'll keep the filemover right if that's ok. I was just a bit frustrated yesterday. Geoffroi 00:55, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, that's fine. I'll mark this as resolved shortly. Abzeronow (talk) 01:16, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- I'll keep the filemover right if that's ok. I was just a bit frustrated yesterday. Geoffroi 00:55, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Restore edits
editI just recreated Category:Gilded frames. @DarwIn: There are deleted edits that should (I think) be restored. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 10:38, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
Duplicate content
editWe have File:The ambassador's wife (IA ambassadorswife00gore).pdf and we also have Category:The Ambassador's Wife (1863) which is the exact same pdf from Duke University but in 264 separate jpg files. Is it necessary to have both, or can we just keep the pdf and delete the jpg files? Geoffroi 00:54, 20 September 2025 (UTC)